In this episode of the Napo Podcast, Richard Clark and Tuncay Gurhan discuss what neurodiversity really means, their personal journeys to diagnosis, and the realities of working in probation as neurodivergent practitioners.

They explore workplace adjustments, why a one-size-fits-all approach doesn't work, the importance of recognising strengths rather than focusing solely on challenges, and how Napo has helped shape better support for members across the Probation Service.

Whether you're neurodivergent yourself, manage staff, work in criminal justice, or simply want to understand more about creating inclusive workplaces, this conversation offers honest insight and practical ideas.